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		<title>Comment on Squeezing the Last Drop of Productivity from the American Working Class – 18 Percent National Underemployment and why Wall Street and the Government are Cheering Your Financial Failure. by RICHARD RALPH ROEHL</title>
		<link>http://www.mybudget360.com/squeezing-the-last-drop-of-productivity-from-the-american-working-class-%e2%80%93-18-percent-national-underemployment-and-why-wall-street-and-the-government-are-cheering-your-financial-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-19986</link>
		<dc:creator>RICHARD RALPH ROEHL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 08:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The U.$. Federal Government and the criminal bankster gambler addicts in the Wall $treet casino are both cheering the failure of the common wealth because they are $ociopaths... because they have the prescience and the morals of rabid dogs.

So I dare ask. For whom the bells toll? Eh?

Give it some thought... Mr. Rich-Man! Beware! And this is especially pertinent to CEOs at Goldman $acks! A hungry man is a terrible thing to behold, but when he sees his children hungry, he becomes extremely dangerous. He becomes a guerrilla (i.e.: Joe Stacks and Timothy McVeigh and Ted Kazinsky, et.al). Yes! Indeed! Old Coyote Knose... it&#039;s a lot easier to burn down a rich man&#039;s mansion than it is to build that mansion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The U.$. Federal Government and the criminal bankster gambler addicts in the Wall $treet casino are both cheering the failure of the common wealth because they are $ociopaths&#8230; because they have the prescience and the morals of rabid dogs.</p>
<p>So I dare ask. For whom the bells toll? Eh?</p>
<p>Give it some thought&#8230; Mr. Rich-Man! Beware! And this is especially pertinent to CEOs at Goldman $acks! A hungry man is a terrible thing to behold, but when he sees his children hungry, he becomes extremely dangerous. He becomes a guerrilla (i.e.: Joe Stacks and Timothy McVeigh and Ted Kazinsky, et.al). Yes! Indeed! Old Coyote Knose&#8230; it&#8217;s a lot easier to burn down a rich man&#8217;s mansion than it is to build that mansion.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Stock Market Casino Royale &#8211; S&amp;P 500 is overvalued by 100 Percent – Earnings do not Justify Current S&amp;P 500 Levels.  Financial Markets setting up for Another Correction. by Nancy S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nancy S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 04:47:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People are too optimistic. This recovery makes for great news, but isn&#039;t real. How many companies do you know are hiring people? Profits are being made by cutting costs, not by growth in sales...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People are too optimistic. This recovery makes for great news, but isn&#8217;t real. How many companies do you know are hiring people? Profits are being made by cutting costs, not by growth in sales&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Middle Class Americans Losing Financial Ground on Retirement – As Stock Market Rebounds more Middle Class Americans Have Less Money and Fewer Jobs.  How is Health Care Spending Boosting GDP a Good Thing? by Ali Oops</title>
		<link>http://www.mybudget360.com/middle-class-americans-losing-financial-ground-on-retirement-%e2%80%93-as-stock-market-rebounds-more-middle-class-americans-have-less-money-and-fewer-jobs-how-is-health-care-spending-boosting-gdp-a/comment-page-1/#comment-19938</link>
		<dc:creator>Ali Oops</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 17:03:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your hypothetical family is not self-employed as there is no way two adults get health insurance for $350. To avoid turning the $46 left over into a three digit negative number, they do without the insurance and hope.

Also, note that in 2008 &quot;financial services and insurances&quot; took another .28 of expenditures. Even when times were good, the insurance industry was taking a big chunk of what would have been profits. The two categories together give a better picture of the general tax on the economy finance and insurance represent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your hypothetical family is not self-employed as there is no way two adults get health insurance for $350. To avoid turning the $46 left over into a three digit negative number, they do without the insurance and hope.</p>
<p>Also, note that in 2008 &#8220;financial services and insurances&#8221; took another .28 of expenditures. Even when times were good, the insurance industry was taking a big chunk of what would have been profits. The two categories together give a better picture of the general tax on the economy finance and insurance represent.</p>
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		<title>Comment on 631 Million Credit Cards for 113 Million Households – Credit Card Excess Contracting for First Time in 40 Years.  How Plastic Hid Middle Class Financial Decay. by Fred</title>
		<link>http://www.mybudget360.com/631-million-credit-cards-for-113-million-households-%e2%80%93-credit-card-excess-contracting-for-first-time-in-40-years-how-plastic-hid-middle-class-financial-decay/comment-page-1/#comment-19926</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 04:53:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obviously, Sage, you have a computer and interwebs.  You are not completely free of sin. ;)

BTW, how many of those 618 million cards are in business names?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obviously, Sage, you have a computer and interwebs.  You are not completely free of sin. <img src='http://www.mybudget360.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>BTW, how many of those 618 million cards are in business names?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Credit Card Debt up to 15 Percent of Annual Household Income.  Average Credit Card Debt in 1980 was $670 and Today it is up to $7,800.  The Slimy World of Credit Card Lending. by JP Merzetti</title>
		<link>http://www.mybudget360.com/credit-card-debt-up-to-15-percent-of-annual-household-income-average-credit-card-debt-in-1980-was-670-and-today-it-is-up-to-7800-the-slimy-world-of-credit-card-lending/comment-page-1/#comment-19924</link>
		<dc:creator>JP Merzetti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 03:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like Willow&#039;s take.
I&#039;ve been thinking for some time now....that if more folks just plain stopped: do what they can actually afford to do, and no more.
Can&#039;t afford the house? Rent. Can&#039;t afford the tuition? Use a library for free. Can&#039;t afford the car payments? Save up for a decent beater.
And so on.....

Why does this seem so radical? Why do so many seemingly  intelligent people jump on this line of reasoning as some kind of cop out? If you only earn 40 thousand a year, this means you don&#039;t earn 80. Hell, it means you don&#039;t even earn 50. It means just what it means....a number that is only representational of itself.

Numbers have a way of biting your butt, if you ignore them. They&#039;re worse than terrible toddlers.

I dunno.....if they offered me the job of star spangled dictator or something........the first thing I&#039;d do is make debt and its accompanying interest payments illegal for a year. No-one buys anything on credit.

But seriously - I guess they&#039;ve pushed the envelope far enough and hard enough that a lot of people are going to arrive at this point all by themselves anyway.
And then we&#039;ll see what the credit hounds do....as all that tasty compound interest slips away like wolves into the mist.

Get ready, Freddy.....the American dream has turned into a nightmare.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like Willow&#8217;s take.<br />
I&#8217;ve been thinking for some time now&#8230;.that if more folks just plain stopped: do what they can actually afford to do, and no more.<br />
Can&#8217;t afford the house? Rent. Can&#8217;t afford the tuition? Use a library for free. Can&#8217;t afford the car payments? Save up for a decent beater.<br />
And so on&#8230;..</p>
<p>Why does this seem so radical? Why do so many seemingly  intelligent people jump on this line of reasoning as some kind of cop out? If you only earn 40 thousand a year, this means you don&#8217;t earn 80. Hell, it means you don&#8217;t even earn 50. It means just what it means&#8230;.a number that is only representational of itself.</p>
<p>Numbers have a way of biting your butt, if you ignore them. They&#8217;re worse than terrible toddlers.</p>
<p>I dunno&#8230;..if they offered me the job of star spangled dictator or something&#8230;&#8230;..the first thing I&#8217;d do is make debt and its accompanying interest payments illegal for a year. No-one buys anything on credit.</p>
<p>But seriously &#8211; I guess they&#8217;ve pushed the envelope far enough and hard enough that a lot of people are going to arrive at this point all by themselves anyway.<br />
And then we&#8217;ll see what the credit hounds do&#8230;.as all that tasty compound interest slips away like wolves into the mist.</p>
<p>Get ready, Freddy&#8230;..the American dream has turned into a nightmare.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Middle Class Financial Compact Being Washed Away – Income Dilution and the Saving Disparity.  57 Million Households Live on $52,000 Per Year or Less. by JP Merzetti</title>
		<link>http://www.mybudget360.com/the-middle-class-financial-compact-being-washed-away-%e2%80%93-income-dilution-and-the-saving-disparity-57-million-households-live-on-52000-per-year-or-less/comment-page-1/#comment-19922</link>
		<dc:creator>JP Merzetti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 00:53:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d say it&#039;s an important point that median household income doesn&#039;t really buy a ticket for middle class anymore. And therein likes the problem.
Middle class tickets have been purchased for some time now, on credit, not on earnings.
That this has driven the sorry shadow economy is no surprise. Just randomly scanning media advertising tells us all we really need to know about the tantalizing little angel whispers reverberating through the sensibility of the populace.

As more folks wise up (a dozen times bitten, a hundred times shy?) we&#039;ll no doubt see a new trend of discontinuing conspicuous consumption....no more keeping up with Joneses.
It&#039;ll be a matter of just keeping, period. (home, family, a car, the dog, and sanity...)

Real middle class, as we used to know it....has probably scampered like a frightened rabbit upwards into the top two quintiles (the top 40%) leaving what&#039;s left of the bottom 60 floundering like catfish on a Mississippi levee.....high and dry.

Of course, most of the bottom area of that segment are all probably trying to sustain lifestyles of the rich and famous...so the scramble continues.

It isn&#039;t just a lame thing that real home economy has been hit in the teeth with income stagnation (or worse.)
It&#039;s this weird thing....that great social shame seems to beget the impoverishment of non-aquisition in such a consumerist society.
As if we had to shop like Titans just to keep the whole GDP going.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d say it&#8217;s an important point that median household income doesn&#8217;t really buy a ticket for middle class anymore. And therein likes the problem.<br />
Middle class tickets have been purchased for some time now, on credit, not on earnings.<br />
That this has driven the sorry shadow economy is no surprise. Just randomly scanning media advertising tells us all we really need to know about the tantalizing little angel whispers reverberating through the sensibility of the populace.</p>
<p>As more folks wise up (a dozen times bitten, a hundred times shy?) we&#8217;ll no doubt see a new trend of discontinuing conspicuous consumption&#8230;.no more keeping up with Joneses.<br />
It&#8217;ll be a matter of just keeping, period. (home, family, a car, the dog, and sanity&#8230;)</p>
<p>Real middle class, as we used to know it&#8230;.has probably scampered like a frightened rabbit upwards into the top two quintiles (the top 40%) leaving what&#8217;s left of the bottom 60 floundering like catfish on a Mississippi levee&#8230;..high and dry.</p>
<p>Of course, most of the bottom area of that segment are all probably trying to sustain lifestyles of the rich and famous&#8230;so the scramble continues.</p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t just a lame thing that real home economy has been hit in the teeth with income stagnation (or worse.)<br />
It&#8217;s this weird thing&#8230;.that great social shame seems to beget the impoverishment of non-aquisition in such a consumerist society.<br />
As if we had to shop like Titans just to keep the whole GDP going.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Rise of the Cashier and Retail Salesperson Economy &#8211; Employment and the Evolving Job Market of the United States &#8211; 8 Million Jobs Lost in this Recession but Deeper Financial Changes are Coming. by JP Merzetti</title>
		<link>http://www.mybudget360.com/economy-cashier-and-retail-salesperson-economy-employment-and-the-evolving-job-market-of-the-united-states-8-million-jobs-lost-in-this-recession-but-deeper-financial-changes-are-coming/comment-page-1/#comment-19919</link>
		<dc:creator>JP Merzetti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 20:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm. Could be those retail and cashier jobs are what we&#039;re educating the crap out of our kids for...
I&#039;m sure that isn&#039;t why they took on all that student debt - in fact, I&#039;d love to see the actual percentage of today&#039;s job market that  requires more than a high school education, if that.

The American middle class did not rise and thrive through the 1950&#039;s and 1960&#039;s on crap service jobs. It took real jobs to do that. The crap jobs were what ambious housewives and bored high school students fought over.

And that right there - is the continuing shame our decimated economy. The dignity of work is the real glue that holds a political economy together. Playing with exotic pieces of paper hardly qualifies as nation-building enterprise. 

These so-called &quot;jobs&quot; are the crumbs thrown to placate the masses?
Marie Antionette&#039;s cake, more likely. And just look at what happened to her...........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm. Could be those retail and cashier jobs are what we&#8217;re educating the crap out of our kids for&#8230;<br />
I&#8217;m sure that isn&#8217;t why they took on all that student debt &#8211; in fact, I&#8217;d love to see the actual percentage of today&#8217;s job market that  requires more than a high school education, if that.</p>
<p>The American middle class did not rise and thrive through the 1950&#8217;s and 1960&#8217;s on crap service jobs. It took real jobs to do that. The crap jobs were what ambious housewives and bored high school students fought over.</p>
<p>And that right there &#8211; is the continuing shame our decimated economy. The dignity of work is the real glue that holds a political economy together. Playing with exotic pieces of paper hardly qualifies as nation-building enterprise. </p>
<p>These so-called &#8220;jobs&#8221; are the crumbs thrown to placate the masses?<br />
Marie Antionette&#8217;s cake, more likely. And just look at what happened to her&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>Comment on 631 Million Credit Cards for 113 Million Households – Credit Card Excess Contracting for First Time in 40 Years.  How Plastic Hid Middle Class Financial Decay. by SB123</title>
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		<dc:creator>SB123</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 20:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why all the complaining?

If you don&#039;t agree with the terms of the card, just don&#039;t use it!

Cancel your account and pay off what you owe. Real simple!

Quit the Entitlement Attitude: no one deserves a credit card and generations of Americans did just fine without using one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why all the complaining?</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t agree with the terms of the card, just don&#8217;t use it!</p>
<p>Cancel your account and pay off what you owe. Real simple!</p>
<p>Quit the Entitlement Attitude: no one deserves a credit card and generations of Americans did just fine without using one.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Unemployment and Jobless Recovery Myth – California Average Underemployment Rate for 2009 at 21 Percent.  The Middle Class Destruction through Unemployment Corporate Jargon. by JP Merzetti</title>
		<link>http://www.mybudget360.com/the-unemployment-and-jobless-recovery-myth-%e2%80%93-california-average-underemployment-rate-for-2009-at-21-percent-the-middle-class-destruction-through-unemployment-corporate-jargon/comment-page-1/#comment-19915</link>
		<dc:creator>JP Merzetti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 18:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right. The oxymoronic notion of the century has to be &quot;jobless&quot; recovery. There can be no &quot;recovery&quot; without jobs.
However, if one examines just who it is making those claims of recovery, I&quot;m sure we find that the claimants themselves are indeed, not jobless. Not by a long shot. In fact, if they all, en mass...became jobless tomorrow for the rest of their lives, they would no doubt live high off the hog for eternity. (pass the pork, please)

I think part of the problem here - goes back to all the plans laid for a jobless economy. Every way possible that could be conceived to create a model of economic activity that required less labor cost, was a boon to the ownership class, and doom for everyone else.
Actually having to hire people - is a toxic notion in most boardrooms.
Having to hire them and pay competitive American wage rates is the equivalent of high blood pressure and heart failure to the suits, it seems.

It says a lot though, doesn&#039;t it? That the notion of a &quot;recovery&quot; at all, could be so passionately embraced by the privileged few, while so very many are left out in the cold.
But there it is - they&#039;ve recovered...no-one else has.

What amazes me is not only the waste of workers...and their lives.
That is after all a moral issue.
Beyond that, is the bad management. Chronically unemployed people provide negative returns to the state. (they cost a bit, don&#039;t they?)
Whereas gainfully employed people pay taxes! (imagine that)
Something to think about the next time Uncle shrugs and turns out empty pockets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right. The oxymoronic notion of the century has to be &#8220;jobless&#8221; recovery. There can be no &#8220;recovery&#8221; without jobs.<br />
However, if one examines just who it is making those claims of recovery, I&#8221;m sure we find that the claimants themselves are indeed, not jobless. Not by a long shot. In fact, if they all, en mass&#8230;became jobless tomorrow for the rest of their lives, they would no doubt live high off the hog for eternity. (pass the pork, please)</p>
<p>I think part of the problem here &#8211; goes back to all the plans laid for a jobless economy. Every way possible that could be conceived to create a model of economic activity that required less labor cost, was a boon to the ownership class, and doom for everyone else.<br />
Actually having to hire people &#8211; is a toxic notion in most boardrooms.<br />
Having to hire them and pay competitive American wage rates is the equivalent of high blood pressure and heart failure to the suits, it seems.</p>
<p>It says a lot though, doesn&#8217;t it? That the notion of a &#8220;recovery&#8221; at all, could be so passionately embraced by the privileged few, while so very many are left out in the cold.<br />
But there it is &#8211; they&#8217;ve recovered&#8230;no-one else has.</p>
<p>What amazes me is not only the waste of workers&#8230;and their lives.<br />
That is after all a moral issue.<br />
Beyond that, is the bad management. Chronically unemployed people provide negative returns to the state. (they cost a bit, don&#8217;t they?)<br />
Whereas gainfully employed people pay taxes! (imagine that)<br />
Something to think about the next time Uncle shrugs and turns out empty pockets.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Middle Class Two Income Trap – Two Breadwinners plus Extra Money to support the Banking Industry.  How Middle Class Americans are losing Ground by Supporting the Financial Sector. by JP Merzetti</title>
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		<dc:creator>JP Merzetti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 03:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think a big part of the problem is the lack of stability in the job market. How many hundreds of thousands are now in trouble - forclosure, unpayable debt...because the decent employment that they built their future on flew south never to return. 

Some kind of weird system expects working people to close their eyes, hold their noses, and take the plunge (which used to be based on solid employment.)
That employment is no longer solid. Somehow every single worker caught in that trap, is a deadbeat? Bad planner? Gambler? Or pick any one of the smorgasbord of lame excuses offered up by the system, instead of the obvious one - the system is broken.

But you know - we must admit that the two-income model at first, was quite breathlessly lucractive (through the latter seventies and into the early eighties.) 
I think part of the problem there was the ramp up in consumption as a consequence of the extra income.
Picture a time when there were still lots of affordable modest homes around, able to be purchased for not much more than one income. Likewise, lots of smart economical choices....late model but not necessarily new or high-end cars...
Gradually, this all changed into some weird societal zombified paralysis of reason. Everyone had to have 2 Infinity FX 35&#039;s, and 3600 square feet to house a family of 3.

I wonder - is this another treat served up by the banks (and the advertisers and media as well) that suddenly it was ok for those earning relatively modest incomes - to start living like they earned twice as much?

Make no mistake - for many, that decent employment they based decisions on WAS decent, at one time. Only fools would have taken such risks otherwise....and really, a McJob would not have begun to finance such lifestyles. The income to debt ratio wouldn&#039;t have qualified.
Perhaps the cautious few decided to wait it out, hedge their bets, see if that career ladder was indeed sustainable for ten years or so...
But let&#039;s face it: in today&#039;s &quot;fast food&quot; economy, results are measured in yearly quarters, not years. Who was going to wait?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think a big part of the problem is the lack of stability in the job market. How many hundreds of thousands are now in trouble &#8211; forclosure, unpayable debt&#8230;because the decent employment that they built their future on flew south never to return. </p>
<p>Some kind of weird system expects working people to close their eyes, hold their noses, and take the plunge (which used to be based on solid employment.)<br />
That employment is no longer solid. Somehow every single worker caught in that trap, is a deadbeat? Bad planner? Gambler? Or pick any one of the smorgasbord of lame excuses offered up by the system, instead of the obvious one &#8211; the system is broken.</p>
<p>But you know &#8211; we must admit that the two-income model at first, was quite breathlessly lucractive (through the latter seventies and into the early eighties.)<br />
I think part of the problem there was the ramp up in consumption as a consequence of the extra income.<br />
Picture a time when there were still lots of affordable modest homes around, able to be purchased for not much more than one income. Likewise, lots of smart economical choices&#8230;.late model but not necessarily new or high-end cars&#8230;<br />
Gradually, this all changed into some weird societal zombified paralysis of reason. Everyone had to have 2 Infinity FX 35&#8217;s, and 3600 square feet to house a family of 3.</p>
<p>I wonder &#8211; is this another treat served up by the banks (and the advertisers and media as well) that suddenly it was ok for those earning relatively modest incomes &#8211; to start living like they earned twice as much?</p>
<p>Make no mistake &#8211; for many, that decent employment they based decisions on WAS decent, at one time. Only fools would have taken such risks otherwise&#8230;.and really, a McJob would not have begun to finance such lifestyles. The income to debt ratio wouldn&#8217;t have qualified.<br />
Perhaps the cautious few decided to wait it out, hedge their bets, see if that career ladder was indeed sustainable for ten years or so&#8230;<br />
But let&#8217;s face it: in today&#8217;s &#8220;fast food&#8221; economy, results are measured in yearly quarters, not years. Who was going to wait?</p>
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